ID-Legal

NEXT CALLS
Call details:


 * Tue 07/01/08 10:00 AM - IIW Legal: Setting Goals, Review Draft Description   ID-Legal 07-01-08 Call
 * Tue 07/08/08 10:00 AM - IIW Legal: People and Groups ID-Legal 07-08-08
 * Thurs 07/18/08 10:00 AM - IIW Legal: Goal Review, Potential Partners ID-Legal 07-18-08

Dial in number: 1-309-946-5100 Access code: 44241

Draft Event Description
There is a lack of cross pollination between the legal community and technical community innovating digital identity systems.


 * laws not in sync with technology - creating friction (e-signature)
 * Tech comes out disruptive and the law doesn't know how to deal - causing evolution
 * New Laws coming out - creating uncertainty back into technology markets.

We need to create a space for collaboration to understand
 * what does the law really think 'an identity is' (depends on context: Homeland Security/travel vs financial vs criminal?)
 * what do technologist mean when they use language describing identity and the technology they are building.

"THE LAW" needs to needs to evolve Solove's thesis the law needs to carefully evolve to handle notions of reputations and identity in the online world.

Individuals and Businesses have a joint interest in an identity system that allocates risk and rewards in a socially optimal way.

An example where this kind of early collaboration would have been helpful is the PKI this can be written into a better paragraph Technologists take things at face value
 * previous wave of badness (post PKC) digital signature ( wouldn't it be cool if we could use them instead of paper ones)
 * never bothered to ask what a 'signature' was from the point of view of the law - shape of the ink on the paper - performance of the act - intention to commit oneself to the contract

In the end Techies and Lawyers must make this whole environment that normal people can live in - they have not been talking to each other re: the problems let alone working better together to help regular people.

WHO

 * Governmental entitles (fed, state, local, courts) & politicians
 * DHS (Homeland Security) - some good folks
 * Lawyers and staff for decision makers and the law (in congress, governors and state level), Barak and MaCain staff
 * Commerce Committee
 * NSA (Stewart Baker)
 * Law Enforcement
 * NCCUSL (Nat'l Conf Commission on Unified State Laws)
 * NCSL (Nat'l Conf State Legislators)
 * ALEC (Amer Legis Exchange Council)


 * Business and Corporate interests
 * MySpace, Facebook
 * Google, Yahoo, etc.
 * Intel


 * Universities, professors who have published papers, and law clinics
 * Solove
 * Susan Crawford
 * Michael Froomkin - U Florida
 * Beth Novak
 * Holly Tolle and Ray (?)


 * Consumer interest groups
 * Consumer's Union
 * National Consumer Law Center
 * Privacy Coalition people
 * EPIC


 * Professional associations
 * State and National Bar Assocs
 * CyberLaw Committees of Bar Associations - and chairs
 * ACM
 * IEEE
 * Private Investigator Lobbying groups


 * Related interests
 * 22y olds - interesting Big learning curve
 * Direct Marketing Assn.
 * US Chamber of Commerce


 * International Interests
 * Prime Project? (part of 7th framework, ITU)
 * Cisco & Joe Aledef (also International)
 * International Chamber of Commerce


 * RELEVANT Conferences
 * IIW
 * CFP
 * (others from call?)

Eventually is Quick - in terms of going internationally

International Businesses are already that way.


 * Entities from economic side are already dealing with it.

By Proxy - UN folks from different initiatives, those thinking about the entire world - surrogate.

Institutional Co-Conveners?

 * MIT Media Lab - called for a dialogue about id bill of rights
 * Careful of Gov. conveners - restrictions
 * Common scaffolding - survey type thing - set of protocols. Blind men examining the elephant - handiness
 * Different Languages coming together
 * Framework for them to invite a variety - more useful
 * Berkman
 * UN?
 * OECD - many initiatives going on

For Further Reading
Here are some pointers to papers on legal aspects of online identity that =JeffH has collected:

Bibliography: Legal Aspects of Online Identity

Links to Related Efforts
Here are a few more pages that might facilitate our future conversations. The first link is to the scenarios group, mentioned in our last call.

Scenarios Group http://wiki.idcommons.net/index.php/Identity_Futures

Identipedia http://wiki.idcommons.net/index.php/Identipedia

Systemic Elements http://wiki.idcommons.net/index.php/Systemic_Elements

Inferred vs Actual - The evolution of policy http://wiki.idcommons.net/index.php/Inferred_Vs._Actual_-_The_evolution_of_policy

2008 Q1 Report Identity Rights http://wiki.idcommons.net/index.php/2008_Q1_Report_Identity_Rights

We're also related to Identity Rights Agreements group http://wiki.idcommons.net/index.php/Identity_Rights_Agreements_Charter